Dr. Anabel Ternès von Hattburg on AI, Human Sustainability, and Staying Human in a Changing World
Brainz Magazine Exclusive Interview
Dr. Anabel Ternès von Hattburg is a futurist, psychologist, entrepreneur, TEDx speaker, bestselling author, and one of Europe’s leading voices on sustainability, health and digitalisation. Her work sits at the intersection of technology, human wellbeing, leadership, and social impact, asking a question that is becoming more urgent by the day: as our tools become more intelligent, how do we remain fully human?
In this interview, Anabel shares why AI should enhance rather than replace human agency, why sustainable organisations must protect the people inside them, and why resilience is not about tolerating endless pressure. She also explores the future of leadership, the role women must play in shaping technology, and the power of pausing long enough to hear our own inner voice.
Dr. Anabel Ternès von Hattburg, Europe’s leading voices on sustainability, health and digitalisation
Your work brings together psychology, technology, sustainability, and the future. What first led you to explore how these worlds shape one another?
From childhood, I was interested in understanding why people cannot simply live in peace, both with one another and within themselves. Why do we experience so much conflict, negative thinking, manipulation, bullying, and disconnection? What stops people from feeling at home in themselves?
Psychology and health became an important part of that search. It helps us understand why people suffer, why they can become disconnected from themselves, and why some use power to put others down. I also became interested in nutrition because our physical wellbeing, emotions, energy, and mental state are all deeply connected.
For me, technology, sustainability, health and psychology are integrated and cannot be separated. We are building a future through systems, businesses, and innovations, but those systems are always affecting human beings. The real question is not only whether something is technologically possible. It is whether it helps people live healthier, more meaningful, and more connected lives.
AI is now becoming part of almost every area of life. How do you think it could change us psychologically?
The deepest transformation may not be what AI does to our jobs, but what prolonged interaction with intelligent machines does to our cognition, identity, emotions, and sense of agency.
Human beings have always adapted to their tools. The difference now is that AI is entering areas we once considered distinctly human: writing, reasoning, remembering, creating, advising, and even emotional conversation. That creates a fascinating paradox. AI can expand our cognitive capacity while also encouraging us to outsource it.
If AI always remembers, do we remember less? If it always formulates our thoughts, do we articulate less? If it always recommends, do we judge less? And if it always provides an answer, do we become less comfortable with uncertainty?
“The future challenge is not to preserve humanity against AI. It is to design a relationship in which AI amplifies human potential without quietly replacing human agency.”
The danger is not simply that AI becomes more intelligent. It is that humans become less intellectually autonomous because we stop exercising the capabilities we delegate. We need to use these tools thoughtfully, while continuing to think, question, create, and make our own decisions.
As AI takes on more tasks, which human capabilities will become most valuable?
People often say “soft skills,” but I think that is too superficial. The most valuable skills will be those that allow us to direct, challenge, and contextualise machine intelligence.
That includes judgment, critical thinking, creativity, curiosity, emotional intelligence, ethical reasoning, adaptability, communication, and the ability to make decisions under uncertainty. These are the qualities that help us decide not only what can be done, but what should be done.
I would also add epistemic humility: the ability to say, “I do not know, but let’s find out.” In an AI environment, where answers can be produced quickly and confidently, that becomes incredibly powerful. A machine may provide fluent answers even when the underlying information is incomplete or uncertain.
The future leader will not be the person who claims to know everything. It will be the person who knows which answer deserves to be questioned.
Technological change is moving at extraordinary speed. Are we psychologically and emotionally prepared for it?
No. Technology is accelerating exponentially, but human adaptation is not.
Our nervous systems evolved for much more stable environments. Now, people are expected to constantly reconstruct their professional identity, learn new technologies, adapt to organisational changes, and remain productive at the same time. This can create what I call identity volatility.
People are not only asking, “Will AI change my job?” They are asking, “Will I still be valuable? Who am I if a machine can do this better than me?”
Change itself is not necessarily harmful. Uncontrollable, unpredictable, and meaningless change is. That distinction should fundamentally shape how organisations manage AI transformation.
You cannot simply announce that AI is coming and tell people to upskill. Leaders must create psychological safety, participation, and a sense of agency. Otherwise, people do not enter learning mode; they enter threat mode.
You speak about “human sustainability.” What does that mean to you?
When people hear the word sustainability, they often think about energy, climate, mobility, or the environment. Those things are essential, but the human factor is often missing.
Human sustainability means creating conditions in which people can continue learning, contributing, connecting, and developing over the long term without sacrificing their psychological, physical, or social resources.
We should ask organisations the same questions we ask of environmental systems: are they regenerating resources, or only consuming them? Do they restore human capacity, or do they exhaust it?
“Human sustainability is not corporate kindness. It is strategic infrastructure.”
AI makes this conversation even more important. If technology saves two hours, an organisation may immediately ask what else can be achieved in those two hours. But there is another question: what human capacity can we now restore?
That is the difference between automation for extraction and automation for human flourishing.
Can an organisation really call itself sustainable if its people are exhausted, disengaged, or unable to thrive?
No. An organisation cannot permanently externalise the psychological cost of its business model.
A company can have strong ESG reporting, renewable energy, sustainable procurement, and ambitious carbon targets while still exhausting the people who operate the business. That is not sustainability. It is an incomplete sustainability model.
Burnout, disengagement, turnover, and loss of creativity are not random HR problems. They are signals coming from the organisational system. A genuinely sustainable organisation should leave people with enough psychological and cognitive capacity to go home and still be human.
This means looking at workloads, job control, job security, discrimination, leadership behaviour, and the wider working environment. The question is not only what impact a business has on the world outside. It is what happens inside the nervous systems of the people working there.
Dr. Anabel Ternès von Hattburg, Futurist, Psychologist, Entrepreneur
How can leaders prepare for a future they cannot accurately predict?
They should stop trying to predict it perfectly and become better at navigating uncertainty.
Traditional leadership often rewards certainty, planning, execution, and control. Future leadership requires sensing, experimentation, learning, adaptation, and strong ethical boundaries. No CEO can know exactly what their organisation will look like in five years, but they can build an organisation capable of responding.
That means scenario thinking rather than relying on one fixed forecast. It means continuous learning rather than occasional training, distributed decision-making, psychological safety, and rapid experimentation.
“The future-proof organisation is not the one that predicts the future correctly. It is the one that can survive being wrong.”
The most successful leaders will be those who can make space for people to learn, question, contribute, and adapt together.
What does healthy resilience look like when change is no longer occasional, but constant?
Resilience is often misunderstood as, “I can take everything.” Psychologically, that can become very dangerous.
Healthy resilience is not the ability to absorb unlimited stress. It is the ability to adapt without losing yourself. There is a crucial difference between resistance, which refuses to change; endurance, which tolerates everything; and resilience, which adapts while maintaining psychological flexibility.
A resilient person can say, “This is not working. I need help. I need to change direction. I was wrong.” Those are not signs of weakness. They are signs of strength and flexibility.
I would also add recovery capacity. A person or organisation that can perform continuously but cannot recover is not resilient. It is simply running on borrowed energy.
What barriers still prevent women from being equally represented in technology, business, and the future of society?
Women are not lacking ambition, intelligence, or capability. The issue is that many systems still distribute visibility, capital, authority, networks, and permission unequally.
There is also a subtle psychological dimension. Women are often socialised to optimise for social acceptance, while leadership frequently requires a willingness to tolerate disagreement, visibility, and doing things differently. From an early age, many girls learn that being competent is acceptable, but being too ambitious, assertive, visible, or demanding may come at a social cost.
This creates what I call the permission gap. It is not only, “Can I do this?” It is, “Am I allowed to want this?”
AI could reduce these inequalities or reproduce them at scale. If training data, hiring systems, investment decisions, and algorithms reflect historical bias, technology can industrialise inequality. But if it is designed intentionally, AI can also help reveal invisible barriers.
We do not only need women using technology. We need women shaping the technologies, data sets, institutions, and decisions that shape society. This is what we drive with GetYourWings, helping women design the life they want, and with the Women’s Research Collective, supporting female health research, female researchers, and their careers.
Can businesses genuinely combine profit, purpose, and positive social impact?
Absolutely, but only if purpose is embedded in the business model rather than treated as a communications layer.
Companies should not ask, “How can we communicate our purpose?” They should ask, “What would our business model look like if our purpose were economically embedded?”
The strongest model is not profit plus CSR. It is profit through positive impact. When solving a real social or environmental problem creates economic value, purpose stops being philanthropy and becomes strategy.
The real test is simple: what does an organisation reward when nobody is watching? If it says it values wellbeing but rewards constant availability, the culture is telling the truth. If it says it values sustainability but rewards short-term extraction, the incentive system is telling the truth.
“Culture is what happens when the PowerPoint disappears.”
For someone feeling anxious about the future, what mindset shift could help them feel more empowered now?
Reconnect with your agency: your ability to think, feel, question, and choose before reacting.
We are surrounded by systems designed to capture attention, predict behaviour, and reduce friction. One of the rarest human capabilities may become the ability to pause and ask: Do I actually want this? Is this really true? Who decided this is what success looks like? What kind of human being do I want technology to help me become?
The central question of the future is not simply, “How intelligent can machines become?” It is, “What will humans choose to become when machines can do so much for us?”
We need to listen more. We are constantly producing, performing, and moving forward, but breaks are important. Reflection can be uncomfortable because it may show us where we have failed, missed something, or acted in a way that does not align with who we want to be. But it is also where we reconnect with ourselves.
My own life has taught me that inner freedom and inner voice can remain with us in every circumstance. Sometimes that voice feels covered or difficult to hear. Sometimes we question it or do not want to listen. But listening to it is a form of courage.
Technology can support us, and we should use it. But we must remember that there is always a unique person inside us, imperfect, capable, human, and worthy of being heard.
Dr. Anabel Ternès von Hattburg’s message is not that we should fear technology or resist progress. It is that progress must remain connected to human wellbeing, agency, health, and dignity. As AI reshapes the way we work and live, the most important task may be ensuring that efficiency never becomes more valuable than humanity itself.
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